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the talks between the president and the house have broken down on this fiscal cliff there are to try and avoid the deadline that's coming up. on thursday when the senate comes back into session most of the house of representatives will also be back and the president is going to work if hawaii to try and get -- from hawaii to try and get everybody to work together but at this point it seems like the deadline is just looming. >> we've been talking about this for a good month plus now. is it too late? they have so little time. can they get something together and actually save this before -- before new year's? >> reporter: well, frank as you've seen, in washington the 11th hour deal comes out all the time. in past years senator mitch mcconnell stepped in and been able to negotiate a compromise. this time through twitter he's telling folks that he is not going to step in. he says that the president needs the lead. now our sources saying that senate majority leader harry reid is working on his own plan. it's a smaller package that he's working on. that package would avoid middle class tax
the talks between the president and the house have broken down on this fiscal cliff there are to try and avoid the deadline that's coming up. on thursday when the senate comes back into session most of the house of representatives will also be back and the president is going to work if hawaii to try and get -- from hawaii to try and get everybody to work together but at this point it seems like the deadline is just looming. >> we've been talking about this for a good month plus now. is it...
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. >>> they are trying to reach a last minute deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. they rejected house speaker john boehner's plan "b" and they say it will not be reached until they match spending cuts. they will raise taxes on the wealthiest americans. >> we will go over the cliff because it is what the president wants. >> we will present a tax hike on middle-class americans... >> without a deal spending cuts will take affect in the new year and economists warn it could lead to a recession and big jump in unemployment. >>> and before the end of the year, right now homeowners do not have to pay tax on a portion of the mortgage short sale or principal reduction, in authority sale, they could soon own income tax on part of what they had to pay. >>> officers are looking for and they say he killed his brother-in-law. he left in an orange truck and he is considered to be armed and dangerous. >>> they are banning together to find an answer to problems putting escalators out of service. there are many things that can put escalators out of service, dropped keys and change,
. >>> they are trying to reach a last minute deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. they rejected house speaker john boehner's plan "b" and they say it will not be reached until they match spending cuts. they will raise taxes on the wealthiest americans. >> we will go over the cliff because it is what the president wants. >> we will present a tax hike on middle-class americans... >> without a deal spending cuts will take affect in the new year and economists warn...
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tell us a little bit about the fiscal cliff here. we know the senate is going to come back on thursday. do we expect the presidt to come back to washington and deal with trying to avoid these tax increases and the spending cuts? >> it really does sound like he'll be coming back, suzanne. it is not official. the white house hasn't put out a schedule update. it seems to be more a matter of when he is coming back rather than if. the senate will reconvene thursday. all eyes there as senate majority leader harry reid tries to cobble together something that can get some republican support. we'll be waiting to see exactly when president obama is coming back but we understand that the senate even though it reconvenes on thursday may not, senate democrats may not roll out a bill until closer to the new year. also get some republican support and put pressure on the house to take it up. >> we'll be following that very closely. have a wonderful christmas and of course we'll talk with you a little bit later. if there are any developments on the f
tell us a little bit about the fiscal cliff here. we know the senate is going to come back on thursday. do we expect the presidt to come back to washington and deal with trying to avoid these tax increases and the spending cuts? >> it really does sound like he'll be coming back, suzanne. it is not official. the white house hasn't put out a schedule update. it seems to be more a matter of when he is coming back rather than if. the senate will reconvene thursday. all eyes there as senate...
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with the house hopelessly deadlocked any chance of averting the fiscal cliff will start in the senate and there's a bit of news on that front. our white house correspondent brianna keilar joins us live from honolulu, hawaii. so a slight bit of news. do tell. >> reporter: i hesitate to even say it's a slight bit of news because it's sort of exactly what we would expect, to be honest. the white house is talking about senate democrats about what senate majority leader harry reid will have to cobble together when the senate reconvenes on the 27th and that's really the last-ditch effort. it's seen as the senate trying to do something that can also pass the house, so this is exactly what you would expect. the real problem though is as of this morning, just a week out from when the fiscal cliff is expected to hit. there's no discussions between congressional democrats and congressional republicans even on the staff level. this is what democratic and republican sources are telling me, and overall just to remind people, instead of this being -- here's what we expect. instead of this being some
with the house hopelessly deadlocked any chance of averting the fiscal cliff will start in the senate and there's a bit of news on that front. our white house correspondent brianna keilar joins us live from honolulu, hawaii. so a slight bit of news. do tell. >> reporter: i hesitate to even say it's a slight bit of news because it's sort of exactly what we would expect, to be honest. the white house is talking about senate democrats about what senate majority leader harry reid will have to...
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houses and less about the fiscal cliff. >> and those are simple things to do but they take time. but it's good advice. >>> okay, we hear a lot about the amt and how congress may put a patch on that. can you explain it in a simple way so everyone can understand? >> back in '69 they came out with something called "minimum tax." and in '82, the alternative minimum tax and this was a way to make sure the ch wealthy pay their fair share. this is how to level the playing field a little bit. this simply says now it's around $74,500. if -- it will go down to about $45,000 if the fiscal cliff goes off and nothing is done to adjust it. individuals now getting $45,000 back in '82 when first enarngted which is a lot different than $45,000 today. so if individuals earning $45,000 today might be impacted by additional taxes by this amt if something's not done. and, again, this is just a way to try to -- the problem with the amt is it wasn't adjusted for inflation so as time went on and prices have gone up and people have made more money and inflation has gone into place, things have not adjust
houses and less about the fiscal cliff. >> and those are simple things to do but they take time. but it's good advice. >>> okay, we hear a lot about the amt and how congress may put a patch on that. can you explain it in a simple way so everyone can understand? >> back in '69 they came out with something called "minimum tax." and in '82, the alternative minimum tax and this was a way to make sure the ch wealthy pay their fair share. this is how to level the...
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john mentioned the fiscal cliff. tinight we've learned democrats emocraw moving ahead on their hei plan to avoid it now that talks have broken down with john boehner. white house and congressional leaders have until january 1 to lork out a budget deal. resident obama is in hawaii on udget dn. nancy cordes is there as well. nancy, good evening. nancy, goor: jeff, this would : sentially be a last-ditch effort to avert the fiscal ially be sources tell us that aides to the president have been in talks preliminary talks, with aides to senate majority leader harry elf who himself was here in hawaii this weekend for the funeral of senator daniel inouye. eid is now working, we're told, on a smaller package than the comprehensive deal than the president was working on with speaker boehner. than tmall package would prevent tax rates from rising for middle-class, perhaps cut some spending and tie up a few other loose ends. so far, though, senator reid has so fbeen in touch with republicans over this plan. blicans ovent and the
john mentioned the fiscal cliff. tinight we've learned democrats emocraw moving ahead on their hei plan to avoid it now that talks have broken down with john boehner. white house and congressional leaders have until january 1 to lork out a budget deal. resident obama is in hawaii on udget dn. nancy cordes is there as well. nancy, good evening. nancy, goor: jeff, this would : sentially be a last-ditch effort to avert the fiscal ially be sources tell us that aides to the president have been in...
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for the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: some republican lawmakers say president obama wants the country to fall off the fiscal cliff. >> we were going to go over the cliff before, we're going to go over the cliff now because that's what the president wants. you cannot negotiate with someone who doesn't want to negotiate. >> reporter: that would raise taxes on people making more than $200,000 a year. each making a parting pitch. >> i've asked leaders of congress to work toward a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, prevents unemployment insurance for 2 million americans and lays the ground work for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. >> the presidents solution of raising tax rates would still be ready for as far as the eye can see and it would hurt jobs. >> the partisan bickering has put the country on the brink of a financial crisis. >> it's the first time that i feel it's more likely that we will go over the cliff than not. and that if we allow that to happen it will be the most collosal consequential in a very long time. >> reporter: president obama
for the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: some republican lawmakers say president obama wants the country to fall off the fiscal cliff. >> we were going to go over the cliff before, we're going to go over the cliff now because that's what the president wants. you cannot negotiate with someone who doesn't want to negotiate. >> reporter: that would raise taxes on people making more than $200,000 a year. each making a parting pitch. >> i've asked leaders of congress to work toward...
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be done to avert this so-called fiscal cliff. ed, good to see you. merry christmas to you. >> reporter: merry christmas, kelly. economists have warned that this could lead to another recession if in fact these massive spending cuts and tax hikes kick in at the same time right at the beginning of the new year. what they're trying to do to avert that is scaled back plan that the president suggested late last week that would basically deal with some of the emergency pests of this. extended unemployment benefits for two million people about to be kicked off their benefits a week after christmas the president also wants to extend tax cuts for the middle class. you heard house speaker john boehner say the problem there that will raise tax rates for some. he thinks that will hurt the economy, although over the weekend in sort of a holiday message the speaker suggested maybe they can come together after the holiday. >> of course hope springs eternal and i know we have it in us to come together and do the right thing. we'll continue to wo
be done to avert this so-called fiscal cliff. ed, good to see you. merry christmas to you. >> reporter: merry christmas, kelly. economists have warned that this could lead to another recession if in fact these massive spending cuts and tax hikes kick in at the same time right at the beginning of the new year. what they're trying to do to avert that is scaled back plan that the president suggested late last week that would basically deal with some of the emergency pests of this. extended...
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for the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: some republican lawmakers say president obama wants the country to fall off the fiscal cliff. >> we were going to go over the cliff before, we're going to go over the cliff now because that's what the president wants. you cannot negotiate with someone who doesn't want to negotiate. >> reporter: that would raise taxes on people making more than $200,000 a year. each making a parting pitch. >> i've asked leaders of congress to work toward a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, prevents unemployment insurance for 2 million americans and lays the ground work for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. >> the presidents solution of raising tax rates would still be ready for as far as the eye can see and it would hurt jobs. >> the partisan bickering has put the country on the brink of a financial crisis. >> it's the first time that i feel it's more likely that we will go over the cliff than not. and that if we allow that to happen it will be the most collosal consequential in a very long time. >> reporter: president obama
for the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: some republican lawmakers say president obama wants the country to fall off the fiscal cliff. >> we were going to go over the cliff before, we're going to go over the cliff now because that's what the president wants. you cannot negotiate with someone who doesn't want to negotiate. >> reporter: that would raise taxes on people making more than $200,000 a year. each making a parting pitch. >> i've asked leaders of congress to work toward...
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. >> that fiscal cliff will hurt the city to the tune of almost $100 million right away. >> reporter: most of the cuts could be in health care, welfare programs for the poor, aids programs and housing. >> that's just an immediate hit. >> reporter: across the bay, alameda county supervisor predicted -- >> this is going to shred the safety net even more. the health clinics that serve the uninsured and under insured will get cut. our wic programs for mothers and we have severals sites that would also have a large cut. >> reporter: education would also take a hit. >> this would undo a lot of the good particularly special needs students would have the programs cut perhaps as much as 10% and the meals programs that so many of the students in california are growing up in poverty. a quarter of the students growing up in poverty and they need that meal. >> reporter: not just the immediate cuts, it's also the ongoing uncertainty that comes from the stalemate in washington. a stalemate that bay area officials fear could affect the economy just when it's starting to recover. >> we are looking for
. >> that fiscal cliff will hurt the city to the tune of almost $100 million right away. >> reporter: most of the cuts could be in health care, welfare programs for the poor, aids programs and housing. >> that's just an immediate hit. >> reporter: across the bay, alameda county supervisor predicted -- >> this is going to shred the safety net even more. the health clinics that serve the uninsured and under insured will get cut. our wic programs for mothers and we...
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to avoid the fiscal cliff. we are one week away from it, as you mentioned, and republicans are not even part of the discussions, both in the senate and in the house, and at this point they are certainly maybe having a working christmas. senate democrats and republicans, but i think it's interesting just to kind of recap what's going on here. before president obama and house speaker john boehner were working on a much bigger package obviously, not just to avoid the fiscal cliff but to try and tackle the long-term fiscal health of the country, trying to overall it was expected to raise some taxes, try to deal with entitlement reform and tax reform, those other big things like entitlement reform and tax reform get kicked into the new year, dana, so it's the gift that keeps on giving on this cli clifftmas. >> taking this pretty far. one of the key questions is whether or not senate democratic leader harry reid will be able to get enough republicans in the senate to vote on anything that will keep taxes low and mayb
to avoid the fiscal cliff. we are one week away from it, as you mentioned, and republicans are not even part of the discussions, both in the senate and in the house, and at this point they are certainly maybe having a working christmas. senate democrats and republicans, but i think it's interesting just to kind of recap what's going on here. before president obama and house speaker john boehner were working on a much bigger package obviously, not just to avoid the fiscal cliff but to try and...
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do we know if the president sen gauged in talks or negotiations regarding the fiscal cliff? >> reporter: we know the white house is at this point, suzanne. it's really the white house and senate democrats who are talking at this point. congressional democrats and republicans are not talking, and this is important to note as the senate is set to reconvene on thursday. at some point take up some sort of measure that harry reid will have cobbled together hoping to get some republican support. but right now it is possible, of course, to resolve this. it's also possible according to a lot of sources that we're talking to that we do go over the cliff, but at this point the white house talking to senate democrats about what their proposal is that they'll be putting out here in the nex week. >> if there was some break through i'm assuming the president would cut his vacation short and go back to washington? is that what you understand? >> reporter: they haven't made it official, suzanne, but i think that is the expectation. talking with sources. it's not really a matter of if the pr
do we know if the president sen gauged in talks or negotiations regarding the fiscal cliff? >> reporter: we know the white house is at this point, suzanne. it's really the white house and senate democrats who are talking at this point. congressional democrats and republicans are not talking, and this is important to note as the senate is set to reconvene on thursday. at some point take up some sort of measure that harry reid will have cobbled together hoping to get some republican...